So Paul is saying he was basically the superseding mind in the Jewish way. He had been, you know, top of his class under the study of Gamaliel. It says, But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mothers tummy, and called me as a result of his grace, to demonstrate his Son in people, that I might preach him among the list of Gentiles; immediately I conferred not necessarily with flesh and our blood. Now see these are the debates I like to get into.